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Posted By s.ward 9/5/2013 4:15:49 PM
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ford transit mk6 2.0 duratorq engine cutting out intermittently

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s.ward
 Posted 9/5/2013 4:15:49 PM
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hi

could anybody help as my van keeps cutting out intermittently

it is a 85ps 2.0 duratorq 2001 reg van . i can some times drive it for 5 miles or sometimes 400 miles

when it cuts out the orange coil light comes on and then it will restart straight away. sometimes you can drive it and it

will hunt and go and it will also kangroo down the road.

i have had it on a code reader and the codes are as follows

p1665 injection pump communication error

p0149 electric fuel pump control time

p1563 injection pump engine stop

p1664 injection pump faulty operation

p0335 crankshaft position sensor malfunction

it has had a new ford crank sensor it has also had a new fuel filter filled up with diesel cleaner

i have also taken the starter motor off and checked the wires to the fuel pump and they are ok

just wondering could it be a bad earth wire

please can anybody help as i need to drive from dorset to germany for work on monday

cheers stuart
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 Posted 9/5/2013 4:45:53 PM
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sounds like a wiring fault or pump failing, have you done any testing or just eyeball check ?
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s.ward (9/5/2013)
hi

i have had it on a code reader and the codes are as follows

p1665 injection pump communication error

p0149 electric fuel pump control time

p1563 injection pump engine stop

p1664 injection pump faulty operation

p0335 crankshaft position sensor malfunction



Why have the fuel injection codes been ignored?


These need looked into as it may be cause of your fault but some testing should reveal some answers!


Neil
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 Posted 9/5/2013 5:10:08 PM
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Sounds like FiP on its way out,any leaks or past repairs near quantity sensor? That said,im not paul daniels!
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Stuart.

Mileage ? Dual mass ? and timing chain ?

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 Posted 9/6/2013 3:38:39 AM
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hi

thanks to all that have replyed

i have not ignored the fault codes . i just think it is something else as i thought the pump was high pressure and if it was faulty it would stop altogether. i would like to think it is electrical fault because it was just cutting out but when i changed the fuel pump relay it started to hunt and go.

i have change the relay back but it has stayed the same. the mileage is 102,654 there is a dualmass flywheel but that sounds ok with no load noises and there is no load rattles from the timing chain

cheers stuart
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s.ward (9/6/2013)
hi

thanks to all that have replyed

i have not ignored the fault codes . i just think it is something else as i thought the pump was high pressure and if it was faulty it would stop altogether. i would like to think it is electrical fault because it was just cutting out but when i changed the fuel pump relay it started to hunt and go.

i have change the relay back but it has stayed the same. the mileage is 102,654 there is a dualmass flywheel but that sounds ok with no load noises and there is no load rattles from the timing chain

cheers stuart
The pump is an high pressure item but not in the common Rail mould,how are is the Cam/Crank sync?

Apart from the ECU on top of the pump and stop solenoid and fuel quantity sensor the pumps are simple enough.

Pump stop request and similar codes normally signal the pump is shagged IF the DMF and Chain are sound.
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 Posted 9/10/2013 5:37:04 AM
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francis brett (9/9/2013)
[quote]s.ward (9/6/2013)
hi

Apart from the ECU on top of the pump and stop solenoid and fuel quantity sensor the pumps are simple enough.


It's been a while since I was 'intimate' with one of those pumps, but, I am struggling to recall a stop solenoid or anything other than the advance solenoid and 'ECU' as 'removable' items.


I stand, to be corrected.
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Radnorman (9/10/2013)
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[quote]s.ward (9/6/2013)
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Apart from the ECU on top of the pump and stop solenoid and fuel quantity sensor the pumps are simple enough.


It's been a while since I was 'intimate' with one of those pumps, but, I am struggling to recall a stop solenoid or anything other than the advance solenoid and 'ECU' as 'removable' items.


Different quotes for different folks! The fuel quantity sensor in the middle of the cam ring housing ( where the injector pipes connect) and flow control valve/stop solenoid whatever you want to call it,both available kits available from ford dealers, by the time a quantity sensor is required it better to get a new pump with a more rugged ecu available through diesel specialists.
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 Posted 9/10/2013 3:18:30 PM
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>>> Different quotes for different folks! The fuel quantity sensor in the middle of the cam ring housing ( where the injector pipes connect) <<<

Sorry but that's all wrong !!

The part you are calling a "sensor" is in fact an Actuator (its the High Pressure fuel quantity solenoid) , it not in the middle of the "cam ring" its in the centre of the hydraulic head ( the cam ring is an internal component that sits towards the front of the pump)

>>> and flow control valve/stop solenoid whatever you want to call it, <<<

Again wrong, the only other external electrical component on that pump is the Advance solenoid (another actuator) which sits below the hydraulic head and is responsible for setting the position of the cam ring via the regulation of the internal cavity pressure.

I am pointing this out not to appear greater than thou, but more so that other people reading this will not go off on a line of inquiry that would lead them up the garden path.

Regards

Mark


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