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Peugeot 206 (petrol) not starting

Posted By DavidAThomas Saturday, January 05, 2019 4:02:25 PM
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Hi,
I have a 2005 Peugeot 206 (3 door, petrol, automatic), VIN VF32CKFWR44553630. It's done 55,000 miles. It has been serviced regularly, and has had the timing belt replaced (but hasn't had the fuel pump replaced).

For the last year or so, it's been having very minor problems when starting up from cold. The engine will occasionally struggle and stall, but won't always do this.

Last week, my wife and I drove to the shops at around middnight; it was about 5 degrees celsius. The car drove and started fine for this 10 minute trip, but was almost out of petrol. We stopped at a petrol station on the way back, and filled the car completely. It then wouldn't start, unless I pressed the accelerator.

I drove home, running the engine hard, in case it had been flooded. But every time it stopped at traffic lights (or even slowed down), it would cut out. I had to drive home keeping the revs at a minimum of 1,500.

I looked on the internet and found suggestions that the MAP filter could be at fault. So I cleaned it, but this hasn't improved matters. However, when putting it back, I left one of the vacuum hoses disconnected from the throttle body. When I started the engine, it actually started up and idled (although there was a strong suction sound from the engine! As soon as I reconnected the hose, the engine died.

I also bought a peugeot planet diagnostic tool, but I have had some fairly severe difficulties getting it installed and working!
If you have any suggestions as to what I should do, I'd really appreciate them.
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 Posted Sunday, January 06, 2019 4:28:13 AM
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You need to get the Planet Peugeot sorted so you can give the lads some live data or faults recorded.In the mean time try this.
WITHOUT starting
Turn on ign for 10secs
Turn off for 10 secs
Do this 5 times.
Switch off.
SWITCH ON ALL ELECTRICS INC HEATED REAR window.
WITHOUT TOUCHING THE THROTTLE START THE ENGINE.
Allow the engine to warm up to normal operating tempeture (Donot rev it up).
Switch off.
Switch off the electrics.
Start the engine WITHOUT OPERATING THE THROTTLE .see if it has sorted it.
On normal starting never use the throttle as it gives the Ecu the wrong signal.


Regards

Cyril

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 Posted Sunday, January 06, 2019 9:00:29 AM
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Depending on the type of system id check the ISCV (idle speed control valve ) on the throttle body on marreli systems it gives this fault when the motor fails
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Well you've proved that the idle control valve/throttle valve isn't opening by getting it to run with an additional source of air by leaving the vacuum pipe off.
Try Cyril's suggestion (especially re getting the Planet to work, it is a genuine one I take it?) but if no luck then Sunday Driver could well be right but it could equally be a wiring or some other fault causing the same symptoms.Let us know how you get on but I think we're likely to need some information from the Planet!

Peter
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The PP will be a clone.

Get a decent diagnostic tool on it and report back.

Mark


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 Posted Sunday, January 06, 2019 5:43:49 PM
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As above the The PP will be a chinese clone and if it even works will only be as good as the person using it,you money would have been better spend getting a trusted garage look at it.

Kev.


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Mark and Kev yes I daresay you're right about the PP. But I thought it was worth asking the question.

Peter

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