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Posted 09/02/2008 15:34:46
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Hi Guys , hope someone can help.....

my wifes 2002 e39 530d will very occasionally not start. Engine turns fine, but behaves as if the tanks empty when in fact it's half full. 2-3 months may pass without it happening.

There appears to be 2 fuel tanks on the car under the rear seat and as I understand it there is an electric pump which pumps from one tank to the other. Because of the nature of the problem I suspect a sticking point on this pump. Can anyone advise me what is involved in removing/replacing it? Does the tank/tanks need to be dropped, or can the pump be accessed from under the back seat?

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Posted 09/02/2008 16:22:58
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Myles

You may have two fuel pumps; but only one is in the tank.  These have one lift pump and one intermediate pump halfway down the chassis.  Either - or neither - could be the fault.

Transferring fuel across the saddle-tank is a syphon affair powered by the return line.

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Posted 09/02/2008 21:19:03
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 I cannot see why this would be a fuel supply issue. Unless someone who knows BMW comes on to suggest a 'known' shortcoming on this model, I think you should approach this with a open mind. How has the engine started previously, was it just by tryng at intervals ? I'm off now, the NASCAR has restarted. 

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Posted 10/02/2008 10:48:52
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I can't thinks what else it could be, the car drives beautifully otherwise. 99% of the time it starts within a second of turning the key, but the other 1% it will just spin & spin without so much as a cough or splutter.

The last time it happened I tapped the tank & under the passenger seat with a bit of 1x2" and it started. Previously, I pressurised the fuel tank to force fuel to the engine & it started (I could hear the diesel in the tank).

The first time it happened, my missus was driving & it just died as if it had run out of fuel, though the guage showed 1/3-1/2 a tank. Local garage recovered the car & said the tank was empty. Since then we haven't relied on the fuel guage, and any time it has failed to start since it has had about 1/2 a tank full. This led me to suspect the in-tank pump or `saddle' tank arrangement.

No MIL shows , although I haven't been able to get cars0ft to connect to this car .

Thanks for the replies.

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Posted 10/02/2008 11:14:35
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So it has died while being driven, which mean,s it,s not just a starting problem From memory i think there is a problem with one of the supply pipe,s on the engine.

Kev. 

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Posted 10/02/2008 11:15:43
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You could well be on the right track - a large percentage of faults on these are down to fuel pump issues.

Getting the fault codes and live-data examined may show that the lift pump isn't working at all and the intermediate pump is doing all the work.

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