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Posted 02/09/2010 08:45:34
Ford KaK, 52 plate 70ps 1.3 Duratec Will not start


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Not my thing but the GF of a friend of my business partners has this horrid thing and it won't run. It tries to go (even with a sniff of gas it makes no difference) and we have these fault codes pulled using the OBD II feature on VCDS.

Thursday,02,September,2010,11:59:13:54529

VCDS Release 10.6.0:  Generic OBD2

Mode 03: Emission related fault codes

 

Address 7E8: 2 Faults Found:

P0352 - Ignition Control Circuit for Cylinder 2: Malfunction

P0351 - Ignition Control Circuit for Cylinder 1: Malfunction

We have tried a new coil pack but this has made no difference and Autodata doesn’t have the wiring diagram, anyone got any ideas as I don’t want to spend too much time on it.

 

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Posted 02/09/2010 09:17:59
Ford KaK, 52 plate 70ps 1.3 Duratec Will not start
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Power at the coil? Fuse 19 to fuel pump relay and on to coil.

I stand, to be corrected.
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Posted 02/09/2010 09:38:02
Ford KaK, 52 plate 70ps 1.3 Duratec Will not start
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Crash

Will those codes clear - and, if so, when do they return?  Key-on or cranking?

Time to get the scope out - as Rad says; a solid 12v to the middle pin and a normal LT trace on the outer pair.

The basic trace data will be the same as most Fiestas.

Measure the primary/secondary resistance and, if possible, the HT insulation values on the old coil.  I've seen those codes after a coilpack failure - caused by both the switching transistors in the ECU having been backspiked and fried.

In-loom LT tracking is another long shot to consider if the scope trace is a mess.

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Posted 02/09/2010 15:16:23
Ford KaK, 52 plate 70ps 1.3 Duratec Will not start
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Run away mate, FAST

Get your basics out of the way first, but I have a nasty feeling already about this

That age of KA had a concern of tracking water down the loom to the PCM harness plug and rotting it. A repair kit is available, but to get to the PCM you have to remove the complete dash panel !

If the basics don't show anything, thats where my money would be

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Posted 02/09/2010 15:58:47
Ford KaK, 52 plate 70ps 1.3 Duratec Will not start


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I have a suspicion it is the ECU, my colleague Greg has scoped the coil pack plug and one side pulses and the other is dead.

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Posted 02/09/2010 18:19:36
Ford KaK, 52 plate 70ps 1.3 Duratec Will not start


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I had these fault codes on a non start 2002 Fiesta Zetec-S 1600. Coil drivers in the ecu were knackered. Are you getting a flash of spark on initial first crank and then nothing?
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Posted 03/09/2010 06:08:56
Ford KaK, 52 plate 70ps 1.3 Duratec Will not start


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Yes, an initial splutter and then cranking.

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