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2004 ford transit 2.0ltr 100psi duratorq with engine knock

Posted By leetom 6/20/2007 6:05:16 PM
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 Posted 6/20/2007 6:05:16 PM
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i've got in workshop a transit which has a engine knock under acceleration which sounds like diesel knock, checked for fault codes and 2 recorded,

P0149- Fuel pump timing error

P1564- Reduced fueling mode

It does sound like a timing fault but i've checked static pump timing with pins and all seems ok.  Can i replace diesel pump with 2nd hand one and code it in my self (is it just a matter of recoding keys to pump) or is it dealer only.

I don't want to fit a new pump £1300+Vat unless i'm 100% sure its the pump at fault.  I've checked for air leaks and it all seems ok.  Is the fuel pump timing solenoid removable, if so where abouts on the pump is it.

I have got the use of a ford wds machine but to be fair i'm not the best at this but i've got to learn somewhere and didn't want to have to involve dealers unless really necessary.

thanks

lee

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 Posted 6/20/2007 6:14:44 PM
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Lee

Unless i going mad w00t (likely) pump,s cannot be recoded and new pump,s cost £671 +vat from ford.

Kev.

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 Posted 6/20/2007 6:22:19 PM
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Lee

At the rear of the injection pump there is a timing solenoid. This advances and retards the timing of the injection pump.

Ford do these for approx £90 and they simply unbolt or unscrew from the rear of the pump.

A very common fault as Ive diagnosed a few over the last few months

Hope that helps

Paul

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 Posted 6/20/2007 6:59:21 PM
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thanks for both replies,

ford quoted 2 prices, 1st price was £1300+vat, 2xd was £781.11+vat if its the correct type pump.

Is the timing solenoid in between the injector pipes at the back of the pump or the part undernieth the pump held on with two torq screws.

thanks

lee

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 Posted 6/20/2007 7:14:07 PM
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Lee

Sorry m8, ive never actually changed the solenoid myself, as I only do the diagnostic work. I leave that to others to get their hands dirty, lol

Im sure that its a large hexagon type fitting that screws into the rear of the pump though.

Sorry I cant be any more specific Smile

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 Posted 6/21/2007 1:30:49 AM
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what mileage has this done? does it start first time or take a couple of goes and does it rattle on start up?

martin

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don't spen £1300, replace the timimg control solenoid situated in the rear most part of the pump at its lowest most point, held in by two torx screws. This will cure your horrible knocking noise. If it's the 2.0ltr engine it can be done in situ or if it's the 2.4ltr the pump needs to be removed to carry out the replacement.

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 Posted 6/21/2007 12:23:11 PM
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Hi Lee, the Bosch VP pump has it own ECU that you can code read with the KTS or the SPC960 on pin 9 of the plug to the pump itself. If you do this it will tell you if it’s a pump fault or not. I’ve seen the faults P0149- Fuel pump timing error

P1564- Reduced fueling mode, and it’s been the pump at fault they cost £350.00 to £550.00 + vat depending on the long Bosch number on the side of the pump contact info@dbdiesels.co.uk.  These pumps will be enabled so they won’t need coding .You must cut open the diesel filter (not with a saw) if there is iron fillings the tank and fuel lines will need cleaning. Hope this helps, Martin.

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 Posted 6/21/2007 4:54:19 PM
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bought a timing solenoid valve from ford dealer for £42 today, fitted it and it does seem alot quieter but couldn't run it for long as its developed a diesel leak from a fuel pipe that we removed.  Once i've repaired the leak i'll report back with a conclusion.

thanks for the help so far

lee

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 Posted 6/22/2007 2:36:56 PM
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This problem is now fixed, is was as suggested the timing control solenoid.  Its fairly quiet and has more power now.

thanks

lee


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